Member mpm74 Posted September 19, 2014 Member Posted September 19, 2014 Okay, we all know the story about how Bruce was only helping Unicorn Chan with this flick by staging some fight scenes. The Sing Hoi Film Company later spliced his behind-the-scenes footage (via hidden camera) into the actual film. Bruce's involvement with the film was solely for Unicorn to get his own movie, and The Sing Hoi Film company wouldn't finance it without a boost from Bruce's stardom. According to HK Cinemagic, it was released in 1973, while Bruce was still alive. Questions: (edit: did some research and I'm actually answering my own questions....) 1. Lee is listed as "action director" - how many scenes did he choreograph? Turns out, Lee spent ONE day on the set, giving input on script ideas and going over some fight scenes. 2. Which version (english dubbed or subtitled?) has the most footage of Lee? 3. When exactly was this movie filmed? (After Fist of Fury? Before Way? After Way?) Filming started in August of 1972, which tells me it was AFTER Way, while Lee was working on Game of Death. 4. If the original title was Fist of the Unicorn, when did it become known as Bruce Lee and I? Is this the U.S. title? Was it the english dubbed title? 5. Did Bruce Lee file a lawsuit, if so, what was the outcome? After being being credited as "martial arts advisor" and "star billing," Lee issued a legal letter, but nothing further (probably because he was on his way to make Enter the Dragon for Warner) After this incident, Lee's paranoia increased. 6. Did Bruce Lee watch the film? A possibility. According to hkmdb, Unicorn had a theatrical run during these dates: 03/01/1973 - 03/11/1973 7. Was any of the fake/spliced Bruce Lee footage placed in AFTER Bruce Lee died in later releases? 1 Quote
Member ShawAngela Posted September 19, 2014 Member Posted September 19, 2014 The only " Bruce Lee and I " that I know is the Shaw Brothers' one with Danny Lee and Ting Pei. Where did you find that Fist of unicorn is also called Bruce Lee and I ? I wasn't aware of this aka. 1 Quote
Member mpm74 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Member Posted September 19, 2014 The only " Bruce Lee and I " that I know is the Shaw Brothers' one with Danny Lee and Ting Pei. Where did you find that Fist of unicorn is also called Bruce Lee and I ? I wasn't aware of this aka. Yep, Unicorn Fist also had the Bruce Lee and I re-title. So two different movies. 1 Quote
Member Killer Meteor Posted September 19, 2014 Member Posted September 19, 2014 The US print (with made-up actor names) that was used to make that ancient tape transfer, has both titles on the print. The scene where "Bruce" trains Unicorn goes totally out-of-sync, and the Chinese theatrical subs even pop up. I'm told the prints were hastily hacked up to remove "Bruce" speaking. 1 Quote
Moderator Karlos Posted September 19, 2014 Moderator Posted September 19, 2014 May be a silly question, but do we know where this was filmed? 1 Quote
Member Killer Meteor Posted September 19, 2014 Member Posted September 19, 2014 May be a silly question, but do we know where this was filmed? New Territories, I think 1 Quote
Member masterofoneinchpunch Posted September 19, 2014 Member Posted September 19, 2014 When you answer your own questions could you put down the source you found it from? I know, but you know how I am . 1 Quote
Member mpm74 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Member Posted September 19, 2014 When you answer your own questions could you put down the source you found it from? I know, but you know how I am . lol no problem. The above quotes (not verbatim) were taken from Bruce Thomas' THE FIGHTING SPIRIT (one of the best bios on Bruce Lee ever)... 1 Quote
Member masterofoneinchpunch Posted September 19, 2014 Member Posted September 19, 2014 lol no problem. The above quotes (not verbatim) were taken from Bruce Thomas' THE FIGHTING SPIRIT (one of the best bios on Bruce Lee ever)... Thanks. I just added that to my Amazon future purchase shopping list (I have a lot of lists, even on Amazon.) I will purchase sooner than later. I always like when sources are given especially when questions are asked. 1 Quote
Member mpm74 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Member Posted September 19, 2014 Thanks. I just added that to my Amazon future purchase shopping list (I have a lot of lists, even on Amazon.) I will purchase sooner than later. I always like when sources are given especially when questions are asked. Oh, BTW, I picked up the UK version, which has a better cover (more importantly, it's heavily revised!). UK amazon has it... it's a great book. He digs really deep into aspects, most notably, what I'm into the most: what went on during the production of his films... 1 Quote
Member Phantom Dreamer Posted September 19, 2014 Member Posted September 19, 2014 I still have my copy that George Tan released in 2003. 1 Quote
Member NoKUNGFUforYU Posted September 19, 2014 Member Posted September 19, 2014 All I can say is that the years have not been kind to Fist of the Unicorn. It's a great cast wasted, for the most part Whang In sik, Kurata, Jai, etc. Unicorn just was not much of an athlete, or actor, for that matter. He is more of a sucking black hole who drains the energy from the movie. As I said before, there's a reason he never got another lead role, and I am sure it wasn't just that he crossed Bruce. 1 Quote
Administrator KUNG FU BOB Posted September 19, 2014 Administrator Posted September 19, 2014 All I can say is that the years have not been kind to Fist of the Unicorn. It's a great cast wasted, for the most part Whang In sik, Kurata, Jai, etc. Unicorn just was not much of an athlete, or actor, for that matter. He is more of a sucking black hole who drains the energy from the movie. As I said before, there's a reason he never got another lead role, and I am sure it wasn't just that he crossed Bruce. Got to agree with you. He was lucky to get to play bit parts IMO. He was just... lacking in so many areas- looks, acting talent, build, kung fu skills... I bought the film as I'd always heard about it and it seemed like it has it's strange little historic place in Asian cinema. Now it has it's own little place on my shelf, right between FIST OF THE NORTHSTAR and FIST POWER, where I doubt it will be disturbed much. 2 Quote
Member saltysam Posted September 20, 2014 Member Posted September 20, 2014 is the best dvd of this still the average uk 2 disc release? 3 Quote
Member bigrogie Posted September 20, 2014 Member Posted September 20, 2014 is the best dvd of this still the average uk 2 disc release? The German version (German audio only) is widescreen and remastered. Was also told it's uncut. It was released as a doubleheader with CLONES OF BRUCE LEE. 3 Quote
Member bigrogie Posted September 20, 2014 Member Posted September 20, 2014 .....Unicorn just was not much of an athlete, or actor, for that matter. He is more of a sucking black hole who drains the energy from the movie. As I said before, there's a reason he never got another lead role..... Yeah, he simply sucked! No talent guy period. 3 Quote
Member NoKUNGFUforYU Posted September 20, 2014 Member Posted September 20, 2014 I have to tell you, I made some serious effort to go see this as a young, scrawny 14 or 15 year old white kid coming from Berkeley to Chinatown. The 70's San Francisco was pretty creepy at times and when I was a little older we saw Hand of Death and one of the punks that worked at the theater were strapped with a 38. This was not the most relaxing thing to see, but they left us alone. Many times I went on my own, and I was not a well off kid, so seeing a piece of crap like this was usually a big disappointment, especially seeing Bruce Lee on the poster. I realize there are a lot of collectors out here, and Bruce Lee fans on here, but your money could be spent better elsewhere. Go get an independent like "Gathering of Heroes" or "Tough Duel' from this period, and there are a lot more that are worth seeing than this flick. For all we know Lee spent as much time, if not more, on the set of some other movies that are better. 2 Quote
Member mpm74 Posted July 6, 2017 Author Member Posted July 6, 2017 Just added a review for this film: http://cityonfire.com/fist-of-unicorn-1973-review-bruce-lee-and-i-the-unicorn-palm-bruceploitation-fake-misleading-exploit/ 3 Quote
Member DrNgor Posted July 6, 2017 Member Posted July 6, 2017 4 hours ago, mpm74 said: Just added a review for this film: http://cityonfire.com/fist-of-unicorn-1973-review-bruce-lee-and-i-the-unicorn-palm-bruceploitation-fake-misleading-exploit/ Great review. I've Always been curious about watching this on account of the cast. Sadly, it doesn't seem to break any new ground in the genre, even by 1973 standards. 4 Quote
Member mpm74 Posted July 6, 2017 Author Member Posted July 6, 2017 4 hours ago, DrNgor said: Great review. I've Always been curious about watching this on account of the cast. Sadly, it doesn't seem to break any new ground in the genre, even by 1973 standards. It does break new ground: It's the first bruceploitation film But I hear ya. It's a really odd, dull production. Bland, despite the "who's who" cast. If anything, it's a step back for '73 standards. I always wondered if Bruce actually watched the film. 4 Quote
Member DragonClaws Posted July 6, 2017 Member Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) On 7/6/2017 at 9:08 AM, mpm74 said: I always wondered if Bruce actually watched the film. Guess once he found out they were using his name to sell tickets, he passed on watching the movie?. The clips of him are blink and you'll miss it anyway, maybe the original Hong Kong cut featured more behind the scenes clips?. Here's the movies press conference, the footage often features heavily in Bruceploitation movies. This has been taken from two sources, with the footage towards the end being slightly better quality. (Link Expired) Edited May 15, 2021 by DragonClaws 3 Quote
Member mpm74 Posted July 6, 2017 Author Member Posted July 6, 2017 21 minutes ago, DragonClaws said: Guess once he found out they were using his name to sell tickets, he passed on watching the movie?. The clips of him are blink and you'll miss it anyway, maybe the original Hong Kong cut featured more behind the scenes clips?. Here's the movies press conference, the footage often features heavily in Bruceploitation movies. This has been taken from two sources, with the footage towards the end being slightly better quality. Thanks. this press conference footage mostly reminds me of TRUE GAME OF DEATH "Put it in his drink!"... 3 Quote
Member NoKUNGFUforYU Posted July 7, 2017 Member Posted July 7, 2017 I remember reading somewhere that Lee spent a max of 2 days on the set, so, unless he filmed all the fights in those 2 days, his input was minimal. I doubt Lee directed any fights, probably just made a few suggestions. I know that a lot of us fans at the time really looked down on Unicorn Chan for pulling this shit. Pretty sad, considering Lee put Unicorn Fist of Fury and Way of the Dragon. I imagine Linda Lee felt like what the hell when Bruce died and let it go, but who knows. Hong Kong was always pretty sketchy about copyrights, etc. 4 Quote
Administrator KUNG FU BOB Posted July 7, 2017 Administrator Posted July 7, 2017 On 7/6/2017 at 3:39 AM, mpm74 said: Just added a review for this film: http://cityonfire.com/fist-of-unicorn-1973-review-bruce-lee-and-i-the-unicorn-palm-bruceploitation-fake-misleading-exploit/ Oh, I definitely have to check out your review of this. I have no doubt it will be far more entertaining than the movie! On 7/6/2017 at 0:08 PM, mpm74 said: It does break new ground: It's the first bruceploitation film Hahahaha...!!! 4 Quote
Member Killer Meteor Posted July 7, 2017 Member Posted July 7, 2017 This film made me a Pink Floyd fan! 6 Quote
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